ackvonhuelio True, though i am not much in the mood for working with data tables at the moment... i made this because no one was adding things on to there remix which is what your supposed to do... every engine that i've worked with has it's quirks KA is no exception! in the end it all comes down to what your using it for. if your using local projects that don't require any storage CDO works just fine and that's mostly what i work on I don't really see the point of swapping atm other than just going for performance